June 9th 2011 'Boat People'

This was a video presentation from various sources relating to the topic of 'Boat People'



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Ethiopian and Somalis flee persecution, boat fee cost $50USD; escaping from violence and poverty has its risks, being drowned by accident or being pushed overboard.



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Malaysia showing maritime enforcement officers on patrol.

People smugglers involved with and controlled by International crime network.

There are 2 million immigrant workers in Malaysia of which 550 illegals got arrested.

Australia gave $1 million to combat the trade.

Detention Centers confine people, they are denied Civil Rights whilst detained. Arriving in Malaysia without U.N. papers in this circumstance invites gaol with (or without?) canning.

Law allows five years imprisonment.

Followed a scene where a canning is demonstrated.

Juxtaposed with the First Admiral of the Malaysian Navy answering questions put to him.



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Notable was the comment of Step Vaessen presenter of this segment about Indonesia, Australia and people smugglers. Smugglers can earn themselves $10K per escapade.



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An interview with Sarah Hanson-Young "It's Time to Talk", opposes the Labor Party's treatment of the processing of boat people -- Gillard government not treating boat as refugees she said, also Malaysia gets a serve for their treatment of refugees.

Apparently SH-Y mentioned 90,000 people in Malaysian detention. Malaysia sends people back to where they came from once determined.

The presenter questions Sarah Hanson-Young what should happen in Australia with illegals.

Her answer was to the effect genuine asylum seekers should be assessed quickly and allowed to stay.

Sarah Hanson-Young said detention is expensive, so wants 30 day maximum detention. She goes on to say the government hasn't an appropriate system of vetting people in place; in context people from non-threat countries, once identified, could be moved to the shorter express entry queue.

Sarah Hanson-Young disclaims economic (poverty?) causation for illegal entry.



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Commentators Dr. Ellen Pittway and Paul Fraser criticize ill-treatment of people caught-up in Malaysian detention. There maybe a better place for refugees closer to the home lands from whence the left.

Australia has 4,000 in confinement compared with 90,000 in camps elsewhere.



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Adelaide Festival of Ideas 9-12 July 2009, titled "Pushing the Line" and after initial introduction Kalad Kosar took the rostrum.

He is critical of PM Howard's (Lib. gov. 1996-2007) Pacific Solution.

Australia is a small player in illegal immigrant destinations -- KK "more come legally and overstay their time here".

The next 15 mins approx. he deals with smugglers, mode by which payment is made and thereafter the distribution of money.

Amount of money smugglers are paid determined by destination e.g. America high end, Europe next Australia at the low end.

Generally speaking illegal people conveyers are like Travel Agents i.e. "money determines where desperate people are taken".

KK suggested that the successful location of a family member in a foreign country was considered as an investmen by those families.

It's usual for a member to be financed by relatives aggregating liquidated assets.

After lessons learned from abuses by people smugglers, particularly in Pakistan and Afghanistan, a system of escrow operates.

Once a family member achieves work in a foreign country he/she remits money home, the original outlay "investment" justified, and only then does the people smuggler receive his/her fees from escrow.

KK mentions $3.7K is the average yearly return of earned money to the family and he cites the U.S. It's not unusual once the initial loan (investment) is repaid, the cycle recommences with another family member sent on their way into the rort system.

However the peopel smugglers do provide cheaper products and services to the general public in a host nation.

The address finished with questions from the audience:

Burning of boats;

False documents;

Success of international co-operation to stem illegal persons and;

PM M. Frazer's 1975 solution to uninvited foreigners.