November 10th 2011 Social Dynamics Mr. E. Butler and The Voice ...

Lecture 3.

Continuation of Social Dynamics lectures 3. and 4. presented to members and support at the November meeting.

A corollary from the first lecture in which E. Butler traces the historical evolution of mankind from B.C.E. till now.

Social, economic and political advances, some good -- Western European particularly Britain -- and recently (since 18th century), as an observer, E. Butler presents a view especially of eco-techno-scientific development pessimistically.

The thread of philosophical ideology that eventually gave rise to communism (DIALECTIC), undoubtedly the primary thematic and how it can be combated.

The blog divided into sections for the sake of brevity, dealing with the money system as it (has) and now operates and an alternative proffered, better to deal with wants either not realised or current when Paul the Apostle wrote: "For even when we were with you, this we command you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat" 2 Thess 3:10

Eric Butler

1. Orthodox economics and money

The Money Cult - Usury is interest - Mammon is money.

2. Resolution of a dilemma

"Distribution of God's wealth without work".
Philosophy: The search for Truth and Wisdom; from lecture 1. whether to engage in "voluntary association" or be compelled by authority.

3. Experts and consequence*

Cause of national debt (as a "burden") are economists E B terms "witch doctors" -- example provided by narration and graphics of native practice, thus alluding to "mambo jumbo" i.e. jargon used by economists -- " By their fruits ... Matt 7:16
* Debt Inflation Unemployment

4. Erroneous Value

It's not a shortage of abundance of God's many resources and mans discoveries but a shortage of money.
"Discipline of Truth": money is not wealth but a claim to wealth.

5. Consequence of orthodox economics

Historically our money system is based on those of Babylon and Rome. Bankers create money and it's known debt, taxation, money inflation results leading to national debt and empires have collapsed because of inability to control and repay.

6. Money in ancient time

The word pecuniary comes from the Latin pecuniarius means cattle. The value was in the animal from which leather derived, stamped leather disks became exchange (money), which over time merchants accepted as credo (Latin) i.e. credit means Belief Trust. E B says "The man that owned the wealth was using tickets against it, he was not borrowing, it was his." In context he elaborates on what's known as "fiduciary issue" as we know it, and limitations of acceptance -- an interesting aspect, the aftermath of the great train robbery circa 1960's and R. Biggs, and some discarding of bank(sic) notes deemed incapable to tender.

7. Money intermediate time

Gold and silver were used as money, goldsmiths had vaults where gold etc. could be safely stored, receipts issued to depositors. Devious goldsmiths started to issue receipts in ratio 10:1 against deposits, this practice was the start of modern day banking.

8. Money in recent and more recent time

WW1 created a run on bank deposits. Government reaction the Bradbury Flimsys which were government underwritten -- exchange of paper for other paper; E B says it's "little known history".

The American War of Independence cause by colonists creating their own money, formally borrowed from Bank of England. Apparently prosperity resulted when they broke from Bank of England.

9. Analogy with difference

Now money as we know it is printed so are train tickets; 1 ticket supposedly for 1 seat, unlike money "We'll pay you to do the job" NO INTEREST CHARGED! The tickets remain the property of the railway.

10. Overcoming the shortage of money

Shortage of money should NOT stop getting things done; "Money should be the servant of the people."

Notes and coins 5% of money (CASH) in circulation, Financial Credit represents 95% of transactions. E B by example shows what happens in an intra/inter-bank transaction.

11. Reserve Bank and regulation

From 10. above, where-after the Reserve Bank uses mathematical formular(s) incl. interest bearing deposits to determine the amount of cash to circulate. Regardless, E B states for the system to perpetuate depends on escalating debt and things can only get worse(sic) when not enough people are in work.

12. Money creation

Banks are the ONLY source of money.

13. Fallacy associated with money creation

He asks has anyone known where somebody has borrowed themselves out of debt ...(?) But government thinks they can borrow the government out of debt.

He shows how a private/public company keeps its books, in so far as price of a product must include costs; however the wage earner(s) have less purchasing power than the price they pay for goods.

14. Surplus production

Strategies employed to deal with excess production:-

i. Hire purchase
ii. Deficit budgets
iii. Built in obsolescence
iv. Export to communist countries (Russia) [Edit. remember this lecture delivered 1985.]

I. Lenin when questioned as to payment of imports "They ( ... bankers) will provide us with the credit" Further from I. Lenin "International bankers have always financed communism."

15. Labour-unions answer to the surplus problem

A competing theory to unsold production: increase wages and salaries, but regrettably history accordingly shows this leads to unemployment, debt and inflation (price driven); so the problem remains unresolved.

16. Social Dynamics the raison d'êtra

E B asks if a government can create a deficit of $x million as a debt against the country as a mortgage over assets. Why cannot it create $x million as a credit "reflecting the assets"? He goes on to say a social divided can be distributed in many ways. Technocrats ("with doctors") of current orthodoxy policy and mammon to be removed.

The lecture concludes with reference to a book "Wealth - A Christian View" after a report from the Church of Scotland -- google, wealth a christian view.


Lecture 4.

Thirty six minutes of enlightenment that takes in more than the title THE VOICE OF THE AUSTRALIAN CONSTITUTION suggests.

Scrolled text with narration, commencing with the laws preceding: The Ten Commandment, Magna Carta, Habeas Corpus its later repeal with what's known as the Star Chamber. This court later abolished and recommenced as the Family Court of Australia. This is what the promoter of the scrolled document has to say on its contents:-

"The Voice of the Australian Constitution shows how a nation's will can be subverted by a influential few, not to the benefit of the majority, but in the name of political expediency, power and profit.

Thwarted by the clear expression of the Australian people, a succession of politicians and governments have ignored the outcome of referendum and without reference to the people have forced through clever legal machinations designed to make our country in the image of a profit-driven Corporation.

Sneaky and conniving? You bet! When did YOU say this was agreeable to YOU?"

Instances and cases from the start of federation are cited, when the nation has been saved from adversity (see above) by either a Governor General or a High Court's decision. Situations when the Constitution was invoked. The author/authors of the narrated document concentrate much attention to Sect. 79, 80 and 109 and Crimes Act Sect. 43 in the case of illegal court rulings. Some of the issues related need a lawyer's understanding to be comprehended fully.

However something did catch attention:-

" ... Rule of men.That means ultimately - Republican Dictatorship - Now, you say the US is a Republic, yes it is, but what has prevented it becoming a Dictatorship is they have the Second Amendment in their Constitution - the inalienable Right to Bear Arms. No Dictator can successfully take over a nation while the people are armed .................

In Australia there are people promoting the idea of Australia to become a Republic, but few, if any, have a clue what kind of Republic they want. But they do have one thing in common, their Number 1 objective to eliminate me, your Constitution.

Why, because that is exactly what has been done by ever Dictator in history -

Step 1. dis-arm the population
Step 2. plunge the nation into impossible financial debt
Step 3. a Republic ...................
Step 4. a dictatorship, worse than any that has ever occurred in history"

Something comes to mind recently seen was to the effect: A person in a society that allows its members to bear arms is a CITIZEN. A person in another form of society where arms are prohibited is a SUBJECT. Read on a bit, it gets better.

"In 1990, Kim Beasley was asked a question in Parliament from Senator Button. Beasley replied - 'The United nations has given the Federal Government a mandate of ownership for housing, farms, property and business to Government control ONCE A REPUBLIC HAS BEEN PROCLAIMED'

So there you have it - the real purpose behind the push for a Republic, which will become the worse dictatorship in history - Why? because of todays money power."

Supprisingly what followed is found in lecture 3. with some supplementary history e.g. how the Bank of England came into being, the Reserve Bank gets a mention. Section 51 - 4,12 and 13 how government can resolve money crises. Illegal Cost Orders "It comes under slavery, in the Criminal Code Act. Sect. 268 : 10"; but the text being seen extends "slavery" to banks and variable interest loans i.e. the Crimnal Code -- Edit. with the knowledge out there this is questionable based on a High Court judgement.

The author(s) have something to say on " - Uniform Civil Procedures Rules - It is an illegal Act ..." High Court 1996. Further on " ... much abuse of the law, by Judges and Solicitors in the Federal Magistrates Court - and it was started to be exposed. No wonder they were anxious to abolish that court on the 5th of April 2009 ..." Hammered home the benefit of the jury system "So ask your Church leaders whatever their title, why they have failed to inform the congregations of how, when and especially why, Julia Gillard, John Howard and Kim Beasley and a host of others including Judges, have not been charged with treason and are awaiting indictment by Grand Jury" -- Well I never knew that!?!?

Also, "Church leaders are responsible to reveal any criminal offense ....................

They are responsible for the knowledge in Hosea Chapter 4, and ............ by concealing a Criminal Offense the are committing a Criminal Offense."

The beseech of Church leaders by William Wilberforce in his day to give the lead, but as then "They become so heavenly bound that they become no earthly good."

October 13th 2011 Social Dynamics Messrs Butler and Lee

The meeting opened by the club secretary D.Brooke (D B)with an introduction.

The audio-visual though recorded over 25 years previous, D B maintained relevant to the World's current looming catastrophe.

He comments that from most Australians feel comfortable because of the mining boom, in any case what's happening "will work its self out.

Jobs for many because of generous time on site arrangements and transportation both onshore and off-operations in New Guinea and Queensland (Mackey mentioned in this regard).

Australia to have the largest open-cut mine in the World, believed to be established in South Australia - somebody voiced "the Olympic Dam"?!

D B drew analogy with the days of empire: India provided money to pay for infrastructure and bureaucrats; D. Brooke said the same may have taken place with Britain and her African colonies.

He suggested the carbon tax (now introduced) is a means whereby the large amounts of debt can be repaid, predominantly to European banks.

Well there you have it, we've been told Australian resources belong to its people, so lumping public and private debt together seems tenable [Edit. Is Labor/socialism dead ... or is this 'Gradualism" at play?!?!]

D B questions if the carbon tax is rediculous, if so what's real? We don't know the truth about carbon polution but we know that resources are taken from the ground and apparently this pays for foreign workers.

D B thinks we may still have debts like that with the Sydney Harbour Bridge, took over 70 yrs. to repay. Since there are only three credit worthy nations, China being one, might China's equity in our resources be significant(?)


Lecture 1



A lecture by the then president of the National President of the Australian League of Rights (ALOR) 1985.

About the time I was introduced to ALOR and the term Social Dynamics, but for reason unstated failed to enroll for a course then being offered.

By typing the term into a search engine -- or maybe consulting a good dictionary -- links will explain the meaning.

Hoping the brief blog shall correlate with the large screen over head projection and accord with the term as applied to ALOR by its National (past) president.


Eric Butler:


The word "Philosophy" starts the journey to what follows. Political philosophy and dialectics, Western belief, conscience and morality compared to communism and its followers. The Free World exposed to a Judea-Christian understanding whilst a communist to base nature, e.g. end justifying means to an outcome.

E B "What is truth" thereafter "... what is a small 'L' liberal". This person presents a problem, there are no absolutes ONLY consideration (and implementation) of "what ought to be" in this persons thinking.

But according to E B;

(i) "The rules of this universe transcends human thinking".

(ii) "What are the rules".

(iii) "Obey them!"


E B still on the case of the "liberal" who is at heart a "utopian" and responsible for the state of things happening in this World (Edit. means ... things as they ought to be).

But "The ideal is the enemy of the real".


Another classification, the "do gooder" comes in for a serve : he or she knows what's right for you -- you're not consulted -- so this person needs power (authority) to effect outcomes.

E B leaves off at this point remarking "explosive outcomes" when left to the "do gooder".


So from philosophy and truth this leads to consideration of the word "authority" -- with ultimate authority residing with God -- without authority and rules there's anarchy.

Therefore " In the service of perfect freedom", well says (or words effective) E B . it's God and the inspired written work -- "What men believe is what men do" -- and how can you get sound policy (political) from untruthful philosophy(?)

According to the speaker "communism is evil" -- some clergy of the time (1985 and before) saw some good in it -- why is it incompatible with Christianity, because Christ is there/here for the individual not to sustain institutions.

"Equality means no quality" according to E B (except as the speaker says, when applied in pure mathematics) and we are judged individually as Christ words have it. Vocal elaboration whilst passages of scripture are projected on Christ and salvation-judgement and again rhetorically he (Mr. Butler) asks "What is Truth(?)".


"Power" (authority) who should possess it(?):

(i) The individual, OR

(ii) should it reside with a group AND

(iii) The place of "freedom" before or after "power" is established.

E B declares individual freedom comes first as per. Scripture -- Jesus Christ rejected authority to be an Earthly change agent; Matthew 4 -- and all else follows.

Magna Carta mentioned and sighted (in part) -- me thinking where is this leading(?)

Maybe E B thinks a blended authority is the answer e.g. King John an "individual" v's barons "group".


A preface before deliberation on the previous word block:"By their fruits ye shall know them".

Applied to men and women, their philosophies (points of view) regarding power and its investiture.

(i) Centralised power according to E B, especially when liberal minded-"do gooders" (mentioned earlier) are implicated, inevitably leads to absolute corruption (after proverb. Lord Acton) and remembering what was shown and told earlier in the production:

What the state grants by way of rights can also be taken away, e.g. U.N./Soviet Declaration of Human Rights.

So living in a centralised system not only corruption (can) occur at the top, but it corrupts those over whom power is used.

Ceding self-governance to another means loss of self-will and thereby the "temple" of the soul is compromised (or corrupted).

Supplanting centralised by Caesar makes no difference to implied falsity -- to emphasis a mind set of a "liberal" we see an excerpt of an experiment to disprove gravity ( an absolute).

Failure of the experiment can only mean there was no reliance in God.


Whether its institutions or voluntary associations according to God's Word, it must be to serve the needs of the individual and harmony will result; c.f. centralised power equates to disharmony.

What E B is saying is decentralised power is good, in "big brothers" centralised World once the slogans, words and labels are stripped away what's revealed is bad.


He know uses sport as an example, whereby free association of people establish a game to be played by a set of rules, this in turn creates an ethic. However some people playing the game become disenchanted and move on to another sport game with its (different) code of conduct.

This cannot happen (not allowed) with dictatorships or totalitarian (e.g. communist) regimes, for well understood reasons.[Edit. Q.E.D.]

[Also edit. It's apparent Mr. Butler was not enamored with sociology when this production was scripted]


He explores aspects of the history of benefits derived by humans engaged, maybe by necessity in free association, benefits made possible because of God's love and thereby the abundance of resources provided.

Again attention is directed to claims of "liberals" and their masters as to what "man has done". E B "Man discovers what was ..., man does no create."

Likewise Truth is discovered in the pages of the Bible, this to complement the concept E B was promoting.

Science is a path of discovery using what has been made available. Technology made possible by discoveries of Truth within science has allowed people to enjoy more leisure and pursue ("spiritualising" concept E B) avocational interests, THE UP SIDE.

Unemployment due to over-production, THE DOWN SIDE.

He puts forth the questions: In whose service are the means of production to serve? Ans. The individual, OR as in communism "to control ..." (Edit. proletariat).

Over production, unemployment etc. are they manifestations of discovery, caused by (man) knowing God's Truth?

Ans. Wholesome abundance for all has a consequence?!?!


Decentralised power and the dignity of the individual encapsulated by "Life", "Liberty" and "Property".

Private property ownership succeeds, collective ownership e.g. Trialed early American settlement failed.

Free enterprise with money as the means of exchange, with abundance available and freedom of choice in a macro economic organised National ideal, (Edit. Remember the sport assoc. analogy), is a necessary consequence as is a constitution .

He then introduces a history of parliamentary development, emphasis the U.K. where up to 1917 (the advent of "the new enlightenment") Christianity had standing in the unwritten constitution.

The gist here is a question of the degree of abrogation of individual sovereignty in favour of Caesar and other considerations of governance -- "All progress is moral progress".
E B then asks how should someone use "time saved" due to innovation;

(i) by spiritualising e.g. Church, cultural activity, sport ... OR the extreme

(ii) Place oneself under control of others in life's material offerings.

Decentralisation Mr. Butler identifies with an individuals freedom to pursue cultural objectives, he elaborates: art, music and literature etc. and is backed-up with some renowned graphics of subjects from an earlier period, counterpoise by some more recent.

The circle is closing (with the start), i.e. further consideration of the philosophy of Truth its basis; either those privileged to be in the presence of Mr. Butler or as ASC members and support by a media player reproduction, surely by now realise it began with Christ's teachings.


Therefore politics and economics should be limited to serve the needs of the individual so he/she can get on with life, which Mr. Butler would have it, Christ's "blue print" (Edit. doctrine) should not "mechanically" adhered to but be an "adventure".


Lecture 2



Jeremy Lee


Real credit (non-financial) is the production capacity of people to produce what they want. Basic means of production: "Earth", 'Air", "Water", "Minerals" and "Solar Energy"; the latter stored in coal and petroleum (fossil fuels).

If Christian, the means of production is a gift coming from God, but not so coming from academia "labour produces wealth", et al, "The Labour Theory of Value", but labour doesn't produce the basic means of production.

Also another erroneous economic premise "You never get anything for nothing", because God has given economic capital in vast amounts for our "Dominion" and to "Husband" [Edit. "Husband" explained].


Mankind initially on Earth couldn't tap into the abundance, living a nomadic or a subsistant life.

"Man does NOT create, Man discovers. Know (learn) the Truth and the Truth will set you free".

Two discoveries are dealt with i.e. the wheel and the lever, examples shown how over time succeeding generations improved numerous applications.

Undoubtedly from father to sons (and daughters) knowledge handed down till institutional education in recent time moved things on at a pace. This is called "Cultural Heritage" - America its called "know how", et al, "getting something for nothing"(sic).

Here J L relates in the visual monologue how (inexplicably) the retrogression of civilisation happens [Edit. What comes to mind is the so called "Dark Age" period of history]. "But provided you use the Cultural Heritage you've been given correctly, how to use what God has given us correctly in a productive sense, enables a number of great benefits or increments to come flowing through."

The dilemma then becomes do you increase production or vouch for (more) leisure; it's leisure that sustains and advances civilization, the speaker gives two diverse examples of denial of leisure: the brutish life of the bush men (people) of Africa's Kalahari and communist societies.


By 1200 to 1300 C.E. in England and places in Europe, the average working period per year was sixteen weeks, the all powerful church of the period decreed 150 Holy days. Resulting from (enforced) leisure came culture and spiritualisation unprecedented, with the building of enormous Churches evident today, all accomplished with voluntary labour.

Apparently a time of physical growth that allowed cultural transformation e.g. Shakespeare and Bacon etc.


Individual artisans working in cottage type industry thereafter began to be absorbed into the "Discovery of the division of labour", where a worker performed a task in a production line, this resulted in a greater output.

The example used by the speaker, nails for building "Production increase 150 per person instead of 50". Division of labour, Industrial Revolution (advent of machines), and the unlocking of Solar energy (fossil fuels) - Henry Ford cited - draws attention to potential for increase leisure when machines do the work; God lifts from mankind the punishment (after that) delivered in the Garden of Eden Gen. 3:19.

Because of machines in earlier time people were put off work - cotton mills of Lancashire cited - production increased but people starved. So according to the speaker and history to reverse the situation, Voila! Luddites (machine smashers!)


What follows are reactions to over-production:-


1. "Manifesto of the Communist Ideology" (by K. Marx)
2. "Export, Export, Export OR DIE"
3. National Suicide - Military Aid to the Soviet Union (author: Anthony C. Sutton)
4. The Waste Makers (author: Vance Packard)


[Edit. Knowledge of economics, the titles (above), the means whereby Capitalism has dealt with the problem of production, e.g. 4th in the list "inbuilt obsolescence"].

J L compares a Christians attitude (a better World to come with more technology) with that of a communist "full employment for everybody, and a means to this end. J L then relates the American experience - in conjunction with visual representation - when small farms become aggregated into viable economic corporations (better means of production), people move to cities for work as a result, to house them multi-story constructs.

When production surpassed 2. and 3. above, we are told via advertising excess production in America has led to on-shore shortage (Edit. remember this message now dated 25 yrs.). So the US moves off-shore for resources.


The narrator accuses a demand for consumer goods as the cause of Global pollution (remember it's 1985), Apparently the concern voiced by unconstrained social science academics of the day, who in turn instructed children and adolescence engaged in education "Capitalism (free enterprise) Must Go! The Answer is Socialism!"

Despoliation of youth and land he goes on to say, the answer will not come from within churches but God's written words: Exodus20, Luke16, Exodus22, Luke13, Lev.19, Matt.20, Lev11, Mark11"; hereby answers to many perplexing problems are found.


Since God has provided in abundance and by (human) discovery "given us our daily bread", he asks should the cost of production be increasing or decreasing with ever decreasing human effort. So if "Production cost equals human effort" then the costs of items should fall. Example quoted "Man hours (from) Mine to Road 1100" to manufacture a sedan in US after WW11, the Holden Commodore (Ed. yr 1985) "20 man hours".

With all the rhetorical questioning by the deliverer of this Social Dynamic message, the answer almost posted subliminal to the audience, prices and "Taxes - DOWN, Power - DOWN, Food - DOWN" No! Wages (cost of labour) always trend up.

With the alternative harmonious more stable arrangement he returns to the theme of leisure (see earlier) with numerous contemporary ways humans can live. Leisure analogy and a man marooned, a island with coconut trees; man climbs tree (labour) drops one coconut to ground and eats, therefore Production cost = 1 coconut /1 coconut per day; if four dropped Production cost = 1 coconut/4coconut per day and only one consumed, the man can look forward to three (3) days of leisure for the same cost in labour and time. [Edit. All up somethings to think about ...]

Preview of upcoming events for August and September 2011

August 2011

A video talk on the subject of Social Dynamics.

The speakers will be Eric Butler and Jeremy Lee.

September 2011

A video report on measures taken to ensure air safety standards and the address given by Dr. Terry Jones outside Dearborn Town Hall.

September 08th 2011 Pastors T. Jones and W. Sapp

September meeting was the last when the subject of Dearborn Michigan and the pastors was put to screen and audio speakers.

Pastor Sapp in the video at the Town Hall;

(1) Drew attention to the Muslim mob who at all times attempted to drown what he had to say. He refers to "nice people" those immediately gathered who came to listen. Militant-radical Islam targeted, recounting how peaceful protesters in Afghanistan were subverted into a murderous alliance with (and by) a handful of zealots.

(2) Attention of the benign section of the audience is directed by W. Sapp to a potential threat that might come from Muslims within America -- the rowdy crowd demonstrating from afar cf. what happened in Afghanistan (above). He goes onto say (i) These people never oppose or speak out against radicals. (ii) More concerning is the "cultivation" of radical conduct within the boarders of the U.S.A.

(3) The pastor resorts to the Bible, to history and contemporary documents; the Christian clergy are pathetic "...what has fellowship (edit. Christian) can the light have with darkness". It's a "perversion" for Church leaders to advocate interfaith fellowship, there is only one way to God and that's by/via Jesus Christ.

(4) Pastor Sapp says that Jesus Christ is more than a prophet (as the Koran has Jesus name recorded). He, Christ, has in the pastor's words shown the way to salvation -- "... Son of God" -- and Islam should disband by discarding all cultural trappings.

(5) Again the "blind shepherds" within Christendom need to rethink their stand (see earlier). The Bible and the words of Christ -- incl.chiding and admonitions -- have produced freedoms, particularly the freedom of speech and protections granted in the American Federal Constitution.

(6) Winding up the speech pastor Sapp thanks all attending -- Christians and Islamists -- and perhaps by then, reminding the audience that Sharia is not a belief system tolerant of individual liberty, unlike what's expressed in the Federal Constitution.

(7) Pastor Jones then moves to the lectern, takes the wireless microphone and moves to the back of supporters to eye ball the jeering Muslims who by then have crossed the street towards the town hall. He voices ... the people are united by the Constitution and language. Audibly he questions advice from establishment figures as to the peaceable nature of the citizens(sic) of Dearborn -- this as a line of riot police take up positions between supporters and noisy demonstrators.

(8) The FINAL commences with a rhetoric " ... are we all Americans" the chanting continues from the other side of the street. Pastor Jones asks all to participate in the Oath of Allegiance, this is repeated several times and the flag (flags) are evident in the video capture. He tells the crowd that Americas future lies with them, people have died for what the flag represents, America must find its way again and so must the Churches. He refers to America as a beacon to the World, a righteous nation because of its people and Constitution.

(9) He relates something attributed to W. Churchill (who may have questioned) where to find America's greatness. Apparently then(sic) in the Churches and the faithful. Bringing the address to an end with a short prayer with proscribed finish.

August 11th 2011 Pastor Terry Jones

Lacking numbers of members and supporters it was decided by the few attending to view a shorter presentation prepared by the club's secretary.

The Social Dynamic screening intended for August to be shown later.

An address recorded on the steps of Michigan's Dearborn Council building with Pastor Terry Jones was the substitute video presentation with other related audio/visuals.

Pastor T. Jones, text following from a cassette recording. Since the original sound track recorded from the loud speakers the cassette reproduction slightly degraded --

Essential context provided:-

1. "Fight with what you don't agree with" this in reference to free speech and a right granted by the 1st amendment U.S. Constitution.

2. Pastor Jones is addressing a significant crowd of Muslims gathered across the street to protest at the appearance of Dr. Jones. Dr. Jones insisted that it's not for them to dictate values but to provide "information" for discernment.

3. Apparently Pastor Jones gave CNN broadcasters an interview which has not been put to air, he asserts that this is a denial of free speech and an act of media et al. censoring, he wants this interview put to air for " ... the people to decide".

4. The pastor then virtually condemns the crowd of protesters across the street from the Town Hall steps where Dr. Jones was addressing a gathering of interested spectators - as hypocrites for claiming (as here) that their religion is a " religion of peace" -- admittedly what he was confronting was rowdy group of protestors.

5. What prompted him at this point to ask the gathered to petition gov. for a redress of grievances is unclear [Edit. D. Brooke (sec.) ... something happened on the other side of the street.]

6. The pastor having criticised Islam for unruly conduct and he reminds those present of the right to freedom to keep and bear arms, the means whereby to maintain security of the State.

7. Addressing the ethnic mix before him, he warns (warning No. 1) illegal immigrants to address there illegal status [Edit. presumably no standing under 1st amendment regarding 6. above].

8. His remarks are then directed to Islamists to compare toleration of religion as practiced in America to intolerance practiced throughout the Muslim world. Pastor Jones infers Allah is not a god (mean. Does not exist?) but they can worship Allah in Mosques built with Saudi Arabia money.

9. They (Islamist s) must uphold the constitution of the U.S. by honour and obeying. (Warning No. 2.) " ... not to mess with America".

10. The generosity of "... the red, white and blue" undoubtedly alluding to foreign aid and two reminders: (i) Muslim nations don't contribute, and (ii) So don't think Sharia will be introduced in America.

11. Pastor Jones closed with a harangue [Edit. Preconception shared by those at the club presentation, the office of President is revered by citizens, now challenged since the viewing]. According to what we heard from the pastor it was going to be full-on "Stop Obama"; apart from a personal attack on B.Obama, there was(sic) his statement attributed to Pres. Obama in Egypt; "Islam has always been part of the American story". Definitely Not! According to the good pastor who reiterated the afore quote.

The meeting then viewed a commentary video by David Wood - Mr. Wood appears to host or maintain a website called, 'answeringmuslims.com'.

This video was divided into three parts:-

Part 1. (Introduction by David Wood) -- Edit. was this the CNN interviewer? -- debated Pastor Jones a year earlier on the subject of the burning of Koran, he (Mr. Wood) says "a low form of criticism".

He refers to the "murder veto" the "homicidal maniacs veto" means to an end i.e., to silence criticism.

He then said there is a third way criticism can be stifled, by abuse of rules and misuse of authority. From this (Mr. Wood) led us to Part 2.

We are challenged to find inconsistency in the footage to follow: The hecklers and others gathered constituting the standing audience, caught on camera with accompanying noise being generated, drown-out what was coming from the loud speakers on the municipal steps.

Part 3. (Mr. Wood) and the "inconsistency" from the footage. The claim is that both Pastor Jones and the Islamist s are guilty of incitement but maybe from different perspectives -- Edit. the case for or against this sophism not to be dealt with herein. The clip closes with a puppet show where one represents pastor Jones the other a Muslim cleric with puppet Jones reading selected ayats(?) the cleric annoyed and attempting to gesticulate -- Punch and Judy without rolling pin.

This presentation ended with a video clip of journalists confronting (or being confronted) by John B. O'Rielly the Mayor of Dearborn.

Pastor Jones back on the steps of the Dearborn Town Hall. He briefly criticises B. Obama again in relation to the "story" remark the president made (see above). He quotes from words of Thomas Jefferson that the people (erstwhile electors) have two enemies, they are government and criminals, he goes on to say "These enemies are your enemies" he repeats these words, "These enemies are my enemies".

He then demands of the president that the constitution of U.S. be changed to stop Sharia from becoming the law within the host nation. The Koran does not recognise human and civil rights, a book written he says 1400 years earlier. During that 1400 yrs. Islam has killed "thousand and million people".

Further to this Coptic Christians who hadn't "burned the Koran", hadn't interfered with nor "criticised Islam" a year or two earlier were massacred when leaving "Church". Now America is confronted with threat because of Sharia, the Koran and radical Muslims.

Next can be divided into three parts, the pastor then has a message for Western leaders to:

(i) To "develop a back-bone" and insist the Muslim nations adapt human rights, civil liberties, freedom of speech, and religion.

(ii) Minorities henceforth not to be killed and massacred in Islamic countries.

(iii) Islamic countries to be brought out of the middle ages and become civilised.


More quoting Thomas Jefferson, "... I propose (as between competing choices) ... as we go forward (edit. as a people with mutual interests) we can be killed but NOT stopped".

Also, quotes the pastor from T. Jefferson, "I propose dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery".

Pastor Jones moves away from the microphone and pastor Wayne Sapp takes over the address.

Hereafter abbreviation of what he had to say. A rhetorical question from pastor Sapp "What does America(sic) want", he asks for introspection of the people, he doesn't like what America has become. He thanks the gathered -- Edit. all the gathered?!?! -- for attending, he refers to the Bible, "It's the sick that need a doctor not the well".

That God brought them there so "The truth will set them free". I believe the pastor here infers, T. Jefferson lives on by what he said two hundred years back in time. And the question of government fearing its citizens, or if its citizens are more fearful of government(?) But further to this he infers a government of Islamic ideologists would bring "tyranny to victory" he reiterates "... tyranny has found victory".

Apparently due to Islamic presence in Dearborn its Council functions on principles of Sharia. It seems from what the pastor says, laws are in place to persecute non-believers and promote Islamic beliefs.

Comprehension from looking and listening to pastor Sapp in the comfort afforded by RSL Burwood, towards the end of his "serve", he and others were gaoled a week or so earlier.

With-out police charge, truly consistant with claims made by fearful non-Muslim residence, inviting the pastors to come and speak in this Michigan city.

Pastor Sapp concludes -- understood to be his 2nd speech at Dearborn Town Hall -- with encouragement, the good and improved folk should take action, reversing Islamic tyranny at least in Dearborn.

July 14th 2011 The death of the dollar, Rigged markets and Private financing or public swindle

Meeting open by the secretary Mr. D. Brooke who put to members and support what was available to be aired:

• International Financial and economic aspects,


• Air Safety and,


• a video of Dr. Terry Jones at Dearborn Michigan (a public address).
  
  

As before topics intended for large screen overhead projection. The secretary elaborated on the first mentioned and shown in the Title (above) that numerous commentators would be questioned.

He said what we see can be compared with Australia. It was agreed to view the three as shown in the Title.

The two other proposed (Air Safety and Dr. T. Jones) were to be seen (and heard) at subsequent meetings.

People Power -- Part 1. Death of the Dollar
Introduced by Samah El-Shahat

1. Fall of the $US value 90% since 2003;
2. $US depreciates against European currencies;
3. OPEC wants Euros for its oil;
4. Q: How long will the US$ stand as an International Reserve currency(?)

Max Keiser (video production presenter), Paul Craig Roberts, Dr. Gerald Lyons and James Turk; all apparently recognised as creditable economists.

Following in Part 1. responses from the named to what is paraphrased, the intention is not to attribute any particular observation to any of the mentioned, only hoping that what's put down is true to intended meanings of the participants.

M. Keiser promotes notions on the "Death of the Dollar" the others seen and heard present supplementary elaboration. As a lead in a hospital scene, with MK asking staff where is the "sick dollar" -- ha, ha! Then the bilingual MK interviews a taxi driver in a taxi, presumed somewhere in the Third World what he thinks of the $US, the driver's answer was not gracious.
Then followed the "nitty gritty" provided by the protagonists;

(1) Trade deficits are caused by corporations going off-shore (either to import and/or manufacture), so what comes back is lost GDP to the nation importing and improved GDP of exporters.

(2) Coincidentally since 9/11 Americans have experienced a consumption craze, with government favouring consumers over savers.

(3) Foreign debt caused by billions of dollars -- " Two billion borrowed daily" -- being raise by US from foreigners; now this is not good for US labour (comment attributed to Dr. G. Lyons). Paul C. Roberts said "America living beyond its means".

(4) A continuation of this practice of borrowing can lead to loss of assets with loan default. Late in the presentation a Hans Reiker (also seen later) from nowhere, suggested the Feds. wanted to keep the (consumption) "party going" hoping austerity eventually would cause lenders to "flee".

(5) MK with the devaluation of the $US prices rise.

(6) Paul C. Roberts comments on the effect of cutting the value of the $US, this apparently causes a. Prices to rise AND b. By example he shows another effect: Vehicles brought from China become cheaper as a result this would distress the Chinese economy.

Part 2 -- Death of the Dollar

MK moves interest to the Middle East and potential for recession ... America. We were told due to the Vietnam War and its cost America moved off the gold standard in 1971 -- see (herein) later R. Turk explained this wasn't the first time.

There's ever increasing demand from China for Middle East oil, consequently its price has risen, whilst China was funding America's great amount of debt i.e., the $US losing its reserve currency standard. With the war in Iraq more petro. dollars -- presumed $US -- flooding into the Gulf region. From Hans Rediker again, flooding the Gulf with $US is causing inflation.

A question from MK, J. Turk's reply that Iraq revalued its currency as a result of the weak $US and inflation means imports cost less. Further J. Turk said that in future the oil producers are likely to accept a "basket of currencies".

Paul C. Roberts said Kuwait -- in keeping with the forgoing -- has reduced its holding of $US from 90% to 40% and has embarked on a policy of "diversification" of assets. MK by examples shows what happens between respective wealth funds:

If the Sovereign Wealth Fund U.S. is reduced this will advantage Sovereign Wealth Funds in oil producing regions. Once again J. Turk on the $US, when in the past the dollar assigned to what he termed "fiat grave yard" during the American War of Independence i.e. the "Continental" was created -- ref. Vietnam earlier -- and it was not backed by gold.

Paul C. Roberts claimed the U.S. has "blown it" with erosion of its standing in the World. MK and the World is shopping for a new reserve currency. Paul C. Roberts then compares what's happening "they did it to themselves" analogy with the demise of ancient Rome. S. El-Shahat closes this Al Jezeera program.

People Power -- Part 1. The Markets are Rigged

Samah El-Shahat opens the subject of the program with:

Pooled money of investors end-up in either Hedge Funds (intended for sophisticated investors -- unregulated) OR Mutual Funds (supposedly regulated to protect "small" investors).

Free markets are supposed to be fare in that nobody is to get advantage. But not so according to MK who questions whether markets are indeed rigged(?) His claim is the jargon of the markets, terms such as;

"cheque/check counting",

"bear rating",

"front running",

"back dating",

"wood pack trading",

"pump and dumping",

"wash sales",

"blank cheque/check IPOs",

"parking stock",

"painting the tape",

"market timing",

"plate trading",

"shearing",

"spring loading",

"bullet dodging" and

"Naked Trading"(sic);

are terms and stratagem used to defraud investors.

MK cites Amsterdam 1602 as the first stock market, by 1610 market insiders and manipulators started to work ways to gain advantage over others. He goes on to say by early last century fraudsters were so adapt at their activities they cause the Great Depression 1928/29.

As a result in America the Security Exchange Commission came into existence. Now over half a century later GARY GEREFFI's letter to the U.S. Senate punctuates MK's narration -- G. Gereffi credited with being an S.E.C. insider -- of the letter's content:

America facing the same condition as earlier due to market manipulation. It's the unregulated Hedge Funds that have "network" (edit. mean collude) that avoids scrutiny from S.E.C. and N.Y. Stock Exchange this according to J. Turk.

Hedge Funds are gigantic with something like $2 trillion (at that time) under management. A Robert Kirby at this juncture said U.S. regulators cannot control Hedge Funds, they are leveraged and if the funds go into trouble so will banks.

If you comprehend the colloquial "snake eyes" as used by MK, inferring fund managers cannot lose regardless of the way the market moves -- which comprises 50% of all trades. Also Hedge Funds allow institutions to off-load risk onto others prepared to take risk through brokering, thereby "sweeping (edit. potential consequence) under the carpet".

MK believes regulators and fund representatives are in "cahoots" and daily trade volumes distort the markets -- "little guys get hurt". He goes on to explain how Naked Short Selling works and why it's allowed. RK then questions who are involved in Naked Short Selling and the need for regulation.

JT states that N.S.S. originated in the 19th century, apparently with counterfeit paper as the holding of share certificate is not mandatory and it continues to that day, and why is it so?!?! Part 1. closed by S. El-Shahat.

Part 2. -- The Markets are Rigged

S. El-Shahat : "Markets are neither free nor fair with governments 'with their finger in the pie'".

MK Our attention turned to Mutual Funds and what's termed Late Trading, again small investors can be hurt. With this introduction more of G. Gereffi's letter to the U.S. Senate was text to screen.

Following the message conveyed by the letter, MK at a horse racing track somewhere, tried unsuccessfully to place a bet on a horse race that is over (Edit. No Late Trading there ...)

It's not only bankers and brokers but C.E.O.s of companies that are advantaged by backdating stock options, apparently this MK says "distorts the market".

JT Backdating of a stock that appreciates produces a profit that's "lock in". MK the amount of money involved as at 1996 $7.9 billion, now (over 10yrs later) possibly $100 billion due to backdating manipulation.

JT (Ans. to Q.) Granting options at a lower price disadvantages other investors in a company, their shares are "diluted". A public interest release from the F.B.I. has stated that corporation executives should not profit this way.

MK goes on to compare Soviet style Command and Control Economy to America's Capitalist (Edit. Controlled Eco.) More narration and text to screen from the letter to the Senate. MK during the years since to 2006 many executives have done "runners" to other jurisdictions,

"Apple" computer were caught up in this backdating option scam. Wall St. Journal noted that insiders after 9/11 were backdating options to then when the market was at a low point. He mentions the creation within the F.B.I. of "Plunge Protection Team".

Appears Catherine Austin Fitts to elaborate on the "P.P.T.". JT After 1987 market crash "The President's Group On Financial Markets" came into existence to bring order, but according to JT not so, to the contrary.

MK and "Long Term Capital Management" an initiative of the Federal Government, a fund managed by the best minds with $1 trillion at their disposal. Bailed out debts of private investors under President Clinton's occupation, but said MK government intervention of the kind in recent past was known as fascism.

JT On company failure: failures due to government intervention, this not conducive to market practice. CAF On General Motors suggested the P.P.T.(sic) not doing its duty, because at the time G.M. was not proifit rich and in a position to lead a market rally. [NB. P.P.T. i.e. Plunge Protection Team; Edit. Wasn't it for tracing/stopping market absconders?] RK suggests with the P.P.T. intervening in (all) markets, he questions "is this not central planning?" JT compares America's command monetary system with U.S.S.R.s command bureaucratic system, thus intervention not positive for free markets.

CAF (Edit. Here is when it becomes more confusing) "... we are watching a market where players have inside information because they are trading on behalf of the P.P.T.(sic) and they own the Central Bank, you are looking at the funds that are members of the N.Y. Feds ..." She said they control the currency and their position allows the making of money (edit. personally) legally and illegally?!?!

RK markets are manipulated and are neither free nor fair. The text of the Senate letter to screen with narration; [Edit. Gist of context: how those at the top know their friends and punish enemies.]. MK because of market manipulation, the P.P.T. all very corrupt, entrepreneurs become disenchanted and what comes of this "austere"(?) capitalism.

CAF advises not to put money into large but small ethical companies, move from the U.S. markets to more ethical opportunities elsewhere. MK here as earlier he used a gaming term and sums up: "little guy all risk, big guy all skill". S. El-Shahah closes the program with questioning of whether markets are free and fair, and should Hedge Funds be regulated(?)

People Power -- Part 1. Private Finance Initiatives

S. El-Shahat : Private Finance Initiatives (PFI) started during the government of John Major, understood to introduce efficiency that gov. couldn't match when it came to building infrastructure, money raised in the private sector and contractors remitted by gov. (public sector payment) annually.

MK governments throughout the World find it difficult to generate funding for infrastructure. Warwick Lightfoot, PFI the means whereby private sector raises money for gov. infrastructure and in turn gov. rents back the asset built. Lady (anony.) and the Unity Charge -- gov. guarantees payment by way of dividend (re. borrowings) plus a service charge and this has been known to go for 30yrs.

MK has something to say about private-public sector "swindle". WL apparently the Brit. gov. is well positioned to borrow but cost involved means competition between the two sectors in the Gilt Market. The private sector wins-out by enforced efficiencies and accountability. Lady (anony.) briefly talks how PFIs were introduced and who benefits.

MK because of 800 works then in progress estimated at £170 billion he seeks information from the Brit. Gov. Acct. Comm. Richard Bacon (Conservative MP -- Public Acct. Comm.) likens PFI advocates with Faith, zealots found in differing careers who promote the PFI concept as an alignment of gov. with the private sector. As comprehended, enormity of the scale of jobs "extraction 'of feit'" results [Edit. Self perpetuating and beyond bureaucratic control?!?!].

Lady (anony.) considers how a contract for work derives and is costed. Costs can escalate she says 3,4, and 5 times, then affordability comes a concern and infrastructure and services suffer -- private capital distorts what can be delivered, whilst big money is made by all involved. MK the first PFI project the Sky Bridge (somewhere in Brit.) eventually bought back by gov. because public complained toll charge loaded.

He then mentioned "refinancing" in relation to PFI companies. Lady (anony.) explained how venture capital works, after time risk disappears and financing of infrastructure management services and maintenance i.e. refinancing usually at lower interest rates commences.

RB public sector loses out with refinancing because contracts drawn-up exclude mention. Purposely omitted, creates "secret honey pot" beneficial to private sector.

Lady (anony.) both public and private sector participants are concealed from view due to commercial in-confidence and law/regulation.

Part 2. Private Finance Initiatives.

S. El-Shahat defines infrastructure and states private investors in PFI schemes bear an expense "rent" on borrowed money, but are paid a fee by the gov. for service and risk.

MK PFIs "a stupid way" of financing 800 projects.

WL gov. restricted by rules and regulations causing difficulty to obtain funding but not so for private initiative. In the early days few projects, reduced risk with John Major's guide-lines, then the Gordon Brown era 1997. Lady (anony.) with G. Brown's gov. contrary to general public expectation new legislation and continuation of PFI.

WL the gov. told by bureaucrats for new infrastructure it would have to be the "PFI route". MK "Not a level playing field" (Edit. public sector cannot compete) and PM Brown's attitude was to let the market decide.

Lady (anony.) goes into the process whereby projects are allocated, bidding for work where there's more than one bidder maybe competitive but can delay implementation and extra cost incurred. Even with "preferred" entity bid 2 to 3 yrs. to sign-off. RB Failure of Supply: costs involved in the 10's of millions multiplied by the number of bids these costs passed on to others afterwards, " .. big profits for bankers and consultants"

MK seeks comment from Public Acct. bureaucrat responsible for contract procurement -- introducing Edward Lee/Lea.

EL PFIs increase public investment i.e. capital investment, however he goes on to say this must be matched by current expenditure, examples furbishing, services and maintenance. From left field Geoff Martin on UCA Hospital (elaboration on foregoing) of how the PFI debt repayment disallowed partial occupation, risk caused by market forces (speculation and profit).

Lady (anony.) and Turn-around IT's, professionals with a brief to introduce efficiencies and cut costs. GM again cited Tunbridge Wells Hospital, the management overly occupied with financiers and speculators to the tune of £3.5 million, deaths caused because of lack of staff numbers.

MK then wanted info. from the Ministry of Health, it was not forthcoming. He then turned to asking why private financing compared to gov. bonds was a better option, Ans. Risk transfer!

WL doubts that "risk" is entirely transferable. MK on G. Brown's PFI 2003 upgrade of London's underground rail, two contracts awarded one to Metronet that went "bust" within 4 yrs. of 30 yr. cessation.

WL more on risk transfer, apparently there are other examples (not mentioned by WL), when the tax payers and gov. provided the cost short-fall. MK £ 2 billion pay out to investors due to Metronet failure. WL huge increases both to gov. expenditure and use of PFIs, cost exposure not necessarily in tax payers interest, and as with the underground (and Metronet) the instrument for financing has not stood the test of time.

RB to get things done, indicating public sector failure, the consequence that comes with PFI is profit maximisation. He indicates in hindsight long term contracts -- 30-35 yrs. -- changes do occur. MK suggests to RB a schism exists when it comes to gov. financing (long term) whilst private financing (short term);

RB answers gov. sector work should be financed via gilt-bonds, he says "the cheapest way", and good management selection. Program closes with MK questioning public cf. with private financing and S. El-Shahat asking the audience/viewers for opinion.

June 9th 2011 'Boat People'

This was a video presentation from various sources relating to the topic of 'Boat People'



Clip graphic 1A.

Ethiopian and Somalis flee persecution, boat fee cost $50USD; escaping from violence and poverty has its risks, being drowned by accident or being pushed overboard.



Clip graphic 1B.

Malaysia showing maritime enforcement officers on patrol.

People smugglers involved with and controlled by International crime network.

There are 2 million immigrant workers in Malaysia of which 550 illegals got arrested.

Australia gave $1 million to combat the trade.

Detention Centers confine people, they are denied Civil Rights whilst detained. Arriving in Malaysia without U.N. papers in this circumstance invites gaol with (or without?) canning.

Law allows five years imprisonment.

Followed a scene where a canning is demonstrated.

Juxtaposed with the First Admiral of the Malaysian Navy answering questions put to him.



Clip graphic 2.

Notable was the comment of Step Vaessen presenter of this segment about Indonesia, Australia and people smugglers. Smugglers can earn themselves $10K per escapade.



Clip graphic 3.

An interview with Sarah Hanson-Young "It's Time to Talk", opposes the Labor Party's treatment of the processing of boat people -- Gillard government not treating boat as refugees she said, also Malaysia gets a serve for their treatment of refugees.

Apparently SH-Y mentioned 90,000 people in Malaysian detention. Malaysia sends people back to where they came from once determined.

The presenter questions Sarah Hanson-Young what should happen in Australia with illegals.

Her answer was to the effect genuine asylum seekers should be assessed quickly and allowed to stay.

Sarah Hanson-Young said detention is expensive, so wants 30 day maximum detention. She goes on to say the government hasn't an appropriate system of vetting people in place; in context people from non-threat countries, once identified, could be moved to the shorter express entry queue.

Sarah Hanson-Young disclaims economic (poverty?) causation for illegal entry.



Clip graphic 4.

Commentators Dr. Ellen Pittway and Paul Fraser criticize ill-treatment of people caught-up in Malaysian detention. There maybe a better place for refugees closer to the home lands from whence the left.

Australia has 4,000 in confinement compared with 90,000 in camps elsewhere.



Clip graphic 5.

Adelaide Festival of Ideas 9-12 July 2009, titled "Pushing the Line" and after initial introduction Kalad Kosar took the rostrum.

He is critical of PM Howard's (Lib. gov. 1996-2007) Pacific Solution.

Australia is a small player in illegal immigrant destinations -- KK "more come legally and overstay their time here".

The next 15 mins approx. he deals with smugglers, mode by which payment is made and thereafter the distribution of money.

Amount of money smugglers are paid determined by destination e.g. America high end, Europe next Australia at the low end.

Generally speaking illegal people conveyers are like Travel Agents i.e. "money determines where desperate people are taken".

KK suggested that the successful location of a family member in a foreign country was considered as an investmen by those families.

It's usual for a member to be financed by relatives aggregating liquidated assets.

After lessons learned from abuses by people smugglers, particularly in Pakistan and Afghanistan, a system of escrow operates.

Once a family member achieves work in a foreign country he/she remits money home, the original outlay "investment" justified, and only then does the people smuggler receive his/her fees from escrow.

KK mentions $3.7K is the average yearly return of earned money to the family and he cites the U.S. It's not unusual once the initial loan (investment) is repaid, the cycle recommences with another family member sent on their way into the rort system.

However the peopel smugglers do provide cheaper products and services to the general public in a host nation.

The address finished with questions from the audience:

Burning of boats;

False documents;

Success of international co-operation to stem illegal persons and;

PM M. Frazer's 1975 solution to uninvited foreigners.

May 12th 2011 'Arab Spring'

This was a video presentation in the form of a collection of videos from various sourse such as;

Al Jezeera television and the 'James Corbett Report'.

Israel woman Caroline Glick a specialist on Middle East politics addressing Representatives Washington DC.

The address opens with Egypt: Egypt using law to conduct war presumed against its citizens.

M's Glick then said Hosni Mubarak is a friend of U.S. Other struggles are taking place, as with the P.L.O. waring with Israel and U.S. Israel and America don't have the same policy towards Egypt.

Egypt not a Liberal Democracy but populist with assumed Muslim Brotherhood anti- American, anti-Semitic where poverty etc determines attitude.

Yes (as above) M's Glick says Mubarak had shared interests with Israel and U.S. -- No successor has this interest.

At this point in her talk Tunisia is mentioned as another country in turmoil. Attention again on Egypt she refers to the "mob" ousting Mubarak, imputes the brotherhood's anti-Semitic and anti-American sentiment.

With the arrest and imprisonment of Hosni Mubarak she shows the military rules. From the talk comprehension ( see COMMENT later) is that Mubarak was replaced by the military by a person she called a Nazi, this person presumed to be Ahmed Nazif 05/03/2010 to 15/04/2010.

So Egypt becomes an ally of Hamas(?) and the military wants to increase their budget and allow other Arab states access to the Suez Canal e.g. Iran et al.

Apparently since H. Mubarak's overthrow Israel is the only country the U.S. can trust in the Middle East, M's Glick closes her delivery by proposing (U.S.) containment of Iran and Iraq.

Question Time:-

Q. Israels' Army?

Ans. Israels' escalation of training of its military recently, since earlier wars with Egypt and Lebanon, but draft numbers down with greater "selectivity" when recruiting.


Q. Iran and Syria?

Ans. Syria needs regime decentralization for Israel's protection -- West should do more to remove Bashar al- Assad. Syria is a "way-station" (CG's word) for Jhadists and Hamas. She mentions Lebanon and Iraq, maybe the Muslim Brotherhood takeover in Syria better than Assad.

COMMENT

# The Muslim Brotherhood ONLY political movement with viability OTHER than established regimes in the Arab World (CG's words).

Israel should build its defenses against the brotherhood but government according to CG not listening.



The second Media Player capture, titled Empire courtesy of Al Jezeera.

The documentary commenced showing demonstrations in Arab countries, where regimes have dominant armed services to sustain them. Interviews with people in various Arab lands undergoing upheaval since Jan.-Feb. 11.

Thereafter a four eminent peoples panel (in studio) were introduced:

Professors Bishara,

El Mahdi,

C. Dickey

Dr. P. Seale

M. Bishara was the convener posing questions.


Notably the first question as to whether the civil unrest coming from that part of the World amounted to Revolution(s), there was no consensus from the other three.

R. El Mahdi at another time took exception when in a question the word "asleep" was used in reference to the degree of unrest (its genesis).

A question considering "commonality" and "differences" in the greater region brought forth responses encompassing history, nature of regimes, the diversity of people and economic comparison etc; indeed Egypt with its population of 80 million seemed favoured as a yardstick.

The panel pondered on when the "revolution" started perhaps 10 years earlier (or before), and the part of the Muslim Brotherhood, the concept of the "Old Brigade" versus the "New".


After an excised interval (removed from the video stream) came regime representatives from Egypt, Yemen and Libya disavowing and accusing Al Jezeera's coverage of events as giving encouragement to the unrest.

Also suggestion from those rulerships under pressure, the C.I.A., Mossad, Muslim Brotherhood and Iran were co-instigators of the turmoil.

Before the panel again took to microphone and lens the part technology had played, I.T. digital phones with cameras and especially satellite communication; put to the panel for consideration they acknowledged technology figured largely.

Dr. Seale (possibly) prompted by a question drew attention to the movement of people within the region is more prevalent now.

Diversification of Arab people, country by country, meant issues pertaining all tended to be dealt with by each country uniquely.

R. El Mahdi categorized periods of Arab political development since WW11, the 60's to 70's termed independent, 80's to 90's termed liberal and now democratic which should necessitate "foundational reform".

As the time line moved on with the visual stream, colonization and occupation within the Middle East got mention.

However, C. Dickey denied Israels involvement in the "youth movement" identified with the Arab Spring. Dr. Seale (a Syrian specialist) cites Turkey as an "important player" in that part of the World, so is Iran.

C. Dickey said Iran regardless of the past, now is a State where the "old guys" (Edit. Ayatollahs?!) rule, a comparison. with Turkey.

So the question as to a model/models -- R. El Mahdi above and "foundational reform" -- aftermath of the Arab Spring: The longer the conflict leaders and extremists will come to the fore (C. Dickey). As banners and signs passed across the screen M. Bishara suggested the "revolution" began with quips and jokes before Mubarak was deposed.


The last Media Player capture: James Corbett Report; Arab Spring and WW111.

A woman's voice, in reference to the Middle East ... casting off shackles for freedom. An Arab speaker (unseen) voicing support for protests. Direction protests are heading, an Iranian commentator, in regard to murders in Tunisia and Egypt. An American speaker's criticism of President Obama sending a questionable message to the Middle East.

J. Corbett reflects on happenings both in Egypt and Tunisia. A Western commentator indicates Mubarak has not got sufficient support from NATO, U.S. etc. Iran the Mossad, U.S. (State Dept.) and Brooking Inst., the former targeted by the latter three because of nuclear plans and genocide, other countries mentioned.

Mr. Cavaluchie -- a writer for www.landdestroyer.com -- claims U.S. State Dept. either has, or is currently participating in the removal of the Iranian government.

Next the West (America and Europe) should not allow Assad (Syria) to do what Gaddafi (Libya) did to his people. Syria could be the next political player (edit. as in chess) to experience West intervention, since force was used successfully against Libya.

Assumed the next comment was from J. Corbett: Iran and WW111. Neocons and the "grand game" with a message for China who has interests in Middle East oil and also have this resource in China.

Russia encircled by NATO and the Reagan-Gorbachev Agreement has now been dishonoured, noting oil from Libya is not getting to China because of current events, but China and Russia have nuclear weapons to deploy (i.e. WW111; edit. a fearful consideration).

Apparently there is a Globalist agenda explaining the immediate foregoing, not in interest of people U.S. and everywhere. A master plan according to L. Williams is operating throughout the Middle East, H. Clinton (Sec. of State U.S.) has met the Muslim Brotherhood, the last country to fall to the brotherhood will be Saudi Arabia.

Why, narration provided says oil will reach $200 U.S. a barrel -- Intention? To collapse the $U.S.! Narrator says "U.S. must eventually default on its debt" -- Result! A World government and a new currency. Finally globalists it's claimed are behind moving citizens from county to cities, Thailand according to narration is one such country where this conspicuously must be happening.

April 14th 2011 'Farm Murders in South Africa'

This was a video presentation comprising a series of videos the subject of which was 'Farm Murders in South Africa'.

Three clips the first titled "Story of a South African Cop (Cowboys don't cry)" the cop in question Superintendent Anton Crafford . The three clips are story of forensic detectives at work in South Africa since majority government.

A professor interviewed said behind the violence was the quest for gain -- Don's reflection on the professor's comment: "money, guns and vehicles" these being the motives.


Followed an eleven part presentation on screen, an interview with Dr. Dan Roodt recorded 28 May 2010.

Video clips 1 to 3 the doctor responding to Q. with Ans. on genocide;

clip 4 Q. and Ans. about Eugene Terr'Blanche;

clip 5 Q. and Ans. Historic Development of South Africa;

clip 6 Q. and Ans. Safety before and after Apartheid;

clip 7 Q. and Ans. South Africa betrayed by The West, part of the globalist strategy another multi-cultural experiment;

clip 8 Q. and Ans. Tourism, South Africa A No Go Zone!

clip 9 Q. and Ans. Police and corruption, caused increase Private Security regarded as beneficial;

clip 10 Q. and Ans. covered White South Africans sufficiency to stop genocide;

clip 11 Q. and Ans.Within the South African estate is there a place for intimacy;

clip 12 Q. and Ans. ANC preventing prosecutions of war crimes e.g. Mandela et al;

clip 13 Q. and Ans. White South Africans loss of Human Rights and the European Community.


The last presentation "The Real South Africa", when two young blacks were asked about their lives, goal time, admitted murders and a potential for more to be committed . Other black Africans introduced supported aspects of their revelations, but it was not clear to me whether drugs in part was (with one bloke) not cause for his bravado?!?!

March 10th 2011 Julian Assange

This was a video presentation of Julian Assange and his website 'Wikileaks'.

The presentation dealt mainly with Mr. Assange's legal battle to fight extradition to Sweden to face criminal charges.

A number of media interviews and an audience address by Julian Assange. Digital footage and clips recorded during the period Mr Assange was confined in England awaiting the court's decision to extradite (or not) to Sweden.

February 2011 Global Economic Situation

This was a video presentation by four authorities on international economics.

Those authorities are;

Bill Bonner

Mark Faber

Peter Schiff

Richard Daughty


The topics addressed by Bill Bonner were;


Investment summit 2010

Deflation and US Treasury Bonds

Emerging Real Estate market

Enterprise under attack


The topics address by Mark Faber were;

Inflation, food, China & oil


Ben Bernanke my be deposed

Total economic callapse will come

What's coming next

Global economy; gloom, boom or doom

US Treasury bonds or Asian stocks


The topics addressed by Peter Schiff were;


Global sell off, Global GDP, Japan downgrade


State of the Union

Clueless on financial reform

Peter Schiff vs James Galbraith


The topics addressed by Richard Daughty were;


Government debt

Inflation