Monday, June 6, 2016

14th April 2016 eco.-politic reports(x2); family Rothschild

The agenda presented by the club secretary Mr. D. Brooke
Subjects presented in order with the secretary's recorded introduction

Introduction 

Recorded Introduction:
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Present 1.

Terms used by the presenters in the report: crapercation, crapalism, churning.  Each
denoting employment trend affirmed by what's happening in countries in the Western World.
The replacement of simplicity within bureaucracy with complexity. The multiplication of
paper-work, forms and digital recording with inherent error. A oft criticism from Don
(secretary) of what's happening here (Australia) heedless job multiplication.  The
presenters cite three employment and/or government services, providing explanation where
this latter day complexity is evident (UK and US), here as well and probably many other
countries.  Occupation classifications:  education, hospital and health, law; anywhere where
there's an opportunity to layer upon layer of bureaucrats.  "Churning" a example, where
people can jump between Obama Care and Medicare when a service is denied by one, the other
is accessed and visa versa.

From teleology to the Catholic Eucharist and transubstantiation how digital devices are
impinging on the physical World, the physical World losing its "Fantasy" and becomes
timeless.  Yes, said the interviewed but people using those devises are not as a
generalisation conscious of the cost involved to make the various devices available and
maintainable.  Yes again, he seems to agree, the "aurora" of the digital age, the "wafer"
in devices has replaced J. C. for many people these days, the "opiate" ( alluding to a
saying of K. Marx communist ideologist) their VR headset and smartphones are their god.
Finally "digital rights management" a concept for "micro payments" for the use of copy
right material, hidden charges, say like for the use (maybe) of the content included in the
following Present.      

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Present 2.

When to complement the Present, and to discover the ancestry presumed maybe of Ashkenazi
after the time of Noah, or of a Jewish-Kazar antecedence, stemming from people escaping
early East European pogrom(s), the following is the best time allowed.

"The ancestry of the Rothschilds can be traced back to 1577 to Izaak Elchanan Rothschild
(Isaac (Isaak) Elchanan Bacharach, zum Hahn), whose name derived from the house he occupied
in the Judengasse—zum roten Schild ('at the sign of the red shield'). His grandchildren and
descendants took this name as the family name and kept it when they relocated in 1664 to
another house in the Judengasse—Hinterpfann ('house in the back of the saucepan') — which
became the family's home and business location through to the early 19th century."

"Amschel's* father had a business in goods-trading and currency exchange. He was a personal
supplier of coins to the Prince of Hesse. The family home above the shop had a front wall
only 11 feet (3.4 m) wide, where more than 30 people lived at that time."

"Mayer *Amschel Rothschild, written also Anschel, (23 February 1744 – 19 September 1812)
was a German banker and the founder of the Rothschild banking dynasty, which is believed to
have become the wealthiest family in human history."

Keeping to the primary historical intention of the doco's, and how impression can be in
error, see "Judah" below cf. Present's opening para.--

"Niles' Weekly Register, Volume 49 had the following to say about the Rothschilds influence
on international high finance in 1836;

'The Rothschilds are the wonders of modern banking … we see the descendants of Judah, after
a persecution of two thousand years, peering above kings, rising higher than emperors, and
holding a whole continent in the hollow of their hands. The Rothschilds govern a Christian
world. Not a cabinet moves without their advice. They stretch their hand, with equal ease,
from Petersburgh to Vienna, from Vienna to Paris, from Paris to London, from London to
Washington. Baron Rothschild, the head of the house, is the true king of Judah, the prince
of the captivity, the Messiah so long looked for by this extraordinary people. He holds the
keys of peace or war, blessing or cursing. … They are the brokers and counselors of the
kings of Europe and of the republican chiefs of America. What more can they desire?'"


"In the words of the Daily Telegraph: 'This multinational banking family is a byword for
wealth, power – and discretion... The Rothschild name has become synonymous with money and
power to a degree that perhaps no other family has ever matched.'"


"Writing of the Rockefeller and Rothschild families, Harry Mount writes: 'That is what
makes these two dynasties so exceptional – not just their dizzying wealth, but the fact
that they have held on to it for so long: and not just the loot, but also their family
companies.'"


" Nevertheless, during the Second World War they had to surrender their [Ed. Austrian] bank
to the Nazis and flee the country. Their Rothschild palaces, a collection of vast palaces
in Vienna built and owned by the family, were confiscated, plundered and destroyed by the
Nazis."


"Elisabeth Pelletier de Chambure (1902–1945), the only member of the Rothschild family to
die in the Holocaust."

Also noted during the centuries since the Napoleonic Wars other branch members were
sacrificed in war.


"Paul Johnson writes: The Rothschilds are elusive. There is no book about them that is
both revealing and accurate. Libraries of nonsense have been written about them... A woman
who planned to write a book entitled Lies about the Rothschilds abandoned it, saying: ‘It
was relatively easy to spot the lies, but it proved impossible to find out the truth.’"  "He
writes that, unlike the court Jews of earlier centuries, who had financed and managed
European noble houses, but often lost their wealth through violence or expropriation, the
new kind of international bank created by the Rothschilds was impervious to local attacks.
Their assets were held in financial instruments, circulating through the world as stocks,
bonds and debts. Changes made by the Rothschilds allowed them to insulate their property
from local violence: Henceforth their real wealth was beyond the reach of the mob, almost
beyond the reach of greedy monarchs."  "Johnson argued that their fortune was generated to
the greatest extent by Nathan Mayer Rothschild in London; however, more recent research by
Niall Ferguson [Edit.Documentary film Ascent of Money: A Financial History of the World –
The early history of the Rothschild's family business feature in the second of a four-part
series by Niall Ferguson] indicates that greater and equal profits also were realized by
the other Rothschild dynasties, including James Mayer de Rothschild in Paris, Carl Mayer
von Rothschild in Naples and Amschel Mayer Rothschild in Frankfurt."


"But then the Paris business suffered a near death blow in 1982 when the socialist
government of François Mitterrand nationalised and renamed it Compagnie Européenne de
Banque. Baron David de Rothschild, then 39, decided to stay and rebuild, creating a new
entity Rothschild & Cie Banque with just three employees and €830.000 ($1 million) in
capital. Today the Paris operation has 22 partners and accounts for a significant part of
the global business."

Excerpts WIKIPEDIA and contributors

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Present 3.

This report's primary concentration was on the Panama papers (aka. Mossack Fonseca), hereby
names of personage omitted.  Told the assets, corporation and valuable real estate are not
owned in many instances by national entities, but held in the name of many off-shore
nominees -- London having un-numbered commercial buildings owned by middle East potentates
using tax havens.  The recent exposures by Australia's national TV broadcaster by its
program "Four Corners" could have financial and economic consequences, if not affecting
Australia but elsewhere.  Suggested America since the Panama papers revelation has become a
secure place to deposit money, apparently till things blow-over; proviso no further naming
of those in control of what's called "real money", those in control Capital investments,
such personages can create economic swings.  Then Greece cited as a country where
international financial "heavies" foresaw that it was better to let the place "die".
Reminding ... Off-shoring the theme, so with a recent plebiscite in Holland as to the
Ukraine admittance to the EU (its larger community), a presenter to the report analogizes
this may not be in the EU communities interest.  Just as naming and shaming of prominent
personages (earlier) can have adverse consequences. The presenter concludes with what seems
to have become a truism: democracy is what you force onto others (states) but its not for
your own nationals ...  Undoubtedly if Mr Putin at some stage has a say on the Ukraine
issue, we (club members) don't think he would take kindly to a invitation from the EU
community.          

John from Bankock next interviewed on the subject of gold, its market, paper money and the
distortion of derivatives when considering returning to a gold standard based on the
recognised reserve currency (US dollars).  John states, a large portion of people in the
World traditionally regard gold as a commodity, and now days is treated as such, apparently
to accommodate these people.  The Old and New World settled countries, people according to
John accumulate gold and silver to a lesser degree. Before he could explanation why this is
so ... the programmer called time.

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CONCLUSION with a vote of thanks for the secretary evenings events.