Subjects presented in order with the secretary's recorded introduction
Introduction
Recorded Introduction:
Link to alternative site for immediate play [ASC Audio_20 10/15 ]
Tape Intro. Audio_20 10/15
Present 1.
Halal certification we are told started sometime during the 1980's, it was not a food law restriction imposed by Mohammad's and thereafter till now. Halal certification has political objectives and to all intended purpose a "Dhimmitude tax" (Dhimmitude "protected person"). Apart from What other concerns arise from certification, the one that surely has validity: certified products are exported intended for Muslim consumption. Processed bread is/was sold by Cole Supermarkets imported from Ireland. The presentation suggested certified Australian made bread didn't need certification, as bread is halal and not exported. From the presentation we are told there are 780 million Muslims ( a conservative figure after "Brigitte Gabriel ... EPIC Answer to Muslim"), representing 43% of the World population, 11% under 25 years old. This represents a growing large market, corporations and companies making payments to certifiers are bound by certifiers stricture: don't invest in defense bodies or else ... So do we wonder* those corporations and companies register and send profits off-shore?!?! The first of two confusions arise by the presenter (of the presentation) who inter-changes "certifying authority" and "Imams" as one and the same. The presenter also wants the audience to take notice individual Imams, (here and there -- named), encourage the faithful to embrace the promotion of Sharia -- presumed for everyone?!?! The second confusion ( Q. without Ans.) till then, when two other countries France and Canada are cited as compliant. The monies from some sort of certification find its way either to Hamas (former) or the 'Muslim brotherhood" (latter), both having a classification as "Terrorist". This also as insightful as the one Don showed 11/09/2014; blog "Islam in the West" Clare ...
*In context with the above; vertical integration was dealt with by the presenter relative to food, from raw product (animal and vegetable) to processed for sale. The degree of horizontal integration and certification not elaborated, other than the "defense" association.
Link to alternative site for immediate play of discussion following.
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Present 2.
The named (by Don) in sound files, founder of "Fondateur Muslim Canadian Congress" along with other occupation credits. His address summarised by three observations 1) Identification of the good guys in the ISIS insurgency -- this production recorded late 2014 at a Canadian Senate Committee hearing -- and the bad guys, countries they emerge from taking up residency among host countries, Canada being one of many. 2) Police and particularly the "Mounties" RCMP having been liaising with the wrong Islamists, non-integrationists^ -- unlike himself a integrationist^ -- for far too long; so that FMCC are not given a "look-in". So, the policy of government it seems is to maintain multi-culture, integration a democratic choice, but that doesn't explain alleged non-cooperation to investigate when this senate interviewee at a time, called for protection from non-integrationists^ and probable jihadists?!?! Personal threat to himself from law enforcement he claimed resulted when summoned?!?! 3) Though of Arab descent and proud to be so, he -- and I guess his congress members -- works to a goal of cultural and religious betterment: keeping Muslims out of Canada that wont disavow 1400 years of systemic intolerance as written ... and wanting Arab dress (male and female) dispensed with as it "frighten infants" presumably non-Arab children. Christ! if that's all (as the saying goes) they "the children" haven't got a problem.
Questions from senators followed, impression nothing remarkable until the last. The senator (Ottawa) appeared somewhat intolerant towards the interviewed, both it seemed on the issues of Islam in opposition, with each known to the other. Maybe, as in Australia the political left esteem multi-culture, if not as a Christian duty have the country's assets milched** to satisfy that end; it sure makes a case for entitlement ... The senator a representative of the Canadian Liberal Party, a party "... espouses the principles of liberalism, and generally sits at the centre of the Canadian political spectrum." [Wikipedia] We ASC members left to made of this as best we can. Assimilation, however, with the founder of FMCC and his support tentative, knowing the impasses -- when thought through -- to overcome.
** Pertaining to "Milch cow" as defined.
^ Integration/non-integration used here more generally than dictionary defined.
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Present 3.
A exploration of why young Islamists, particularly Australian, go of to war, namely Syria
and Iraq. Attempting to understand this warrior compeer bred, before it's expunged by
living in what's seen as a polices' police state masquerading as civilian compliant governance -- No Masquerading Here! according to A. Wilkie federal member for Denison, address to parliament 31/12/15. It seems they go off on a noble cause, reclaiming territory lost for decades to dynastic families who rule according to dictator practice. It's understood the warrior ISIL/IS claim to this region (Syria) is supported and sponsored by Anglo-American and European nations, in what might be regarded as a equitable conflict with a guaranteed outcome. A gathering of erstwhile disparate people with similar social and political views adhered by religious compromise, all brought about due to a guarantee of possession of arms. This, mutuality and respect between (such) people, shown to be a survival option where there's liberal access to guns etc. How more noble IS's campaign when compared with contrivance and propaganda, peoples of the so called free World were subjected to last century. In justification of IS, this also a criticism of what political abuses have happened since, here and undoubtedly elsewhere ...
So we ASC members may question how much actual fighting is taking place, whether Muslim
Australian, men and boys, lost -- possibly from collusive intelligence exchange -- as a
deterrent to other thinking of following ... But what cannot be denied weaponry possession
is anathema to self-promoters, identifiable and defined as "alpha" of our specie, both home
and abroad; they who vehemently stand in opposition to (this aspect) of egalitarianism
i.e., the general public elevated to a status bestowed on their (government) agents -- NO
MATTER HOW DEFENSIBLE THE REASON FOR DOING SO (i.e., enacting change)! However, it seems rejection by our "alpha" self promoters has gain traction with a respectable portion of IS Muslims. [ Ed. A deduction from the doco. and other media photo impressions to make sense of their happiness and security, evident the utility a gun empower's its possessor.]
No ritual killing scenes edited into the story.
CONCLUSION with no vote of thanks recorded (sound file) for Don's evening event(s).
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